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Interview with Varg Vikernes
"Tales of the Macabre" magazine (#2, 1994)
Costa Stoios
Burzum is probably the most controversial band in Heavy Metal history until now. On the one hand Count Grishnackh (alias "Varg" Vikernes) is a very talented musician with great song writing abilities and individual style who made great albums (plus one maxi), on the other hand he is very extreme and dangerous as a person and, beside the church burnings and the introduction and praising of fascism in interviews, finally ended the life of Mayhem's guitarist and leader of the inner circle Euronymous in August 1993. The shock value within the scene was big and Grishnackh finally got sentenced for 21 years in jail... but still he seems to be standing tall and getting more extreme with every new day. I got the chance to do this interview with him, but unlike most of the other fanzines I tried to ask some critical questions as this mag isn't a usual Zine where people can praise themselves as much as they like to, especially when it comes to extreme persons like the Burzum main man...
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How's your mental state behind bars and what are you doing to keep it OK?
My mental state? In one word: relaxed! Prison is no big deal, it is a temporary state of isolation, no need to change my mental state just because you get thrown into prison for some time. I do, more or less, the same as I did outside, only minor differences.
Business is going fine for Burzum "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" sells like hell, so what are you going to do with the money you earn out of the sales? Is the financial advantage also existing in prison?
No financial advantage in prison, we only get what we get from the prison which is 25 NOK (about 5-6 DM), no private money allowed. I see no reason to initiate you or anyone else into my private economy. I see to it that money is spent wisely for matters I burn for.
The latest news we heard (from the Misanthropy Newsletter) is your side project Lidskjalw, totally not-metal as it was said, so please can you give some info about it? Why do you differ Lidskjalw from Burzum?
Well, first of all Lidskjalw is written Hlidskjolf. It differs from Burzum simply because the burzumnic sun wheel has been fully covered. The number of Burzum is five, with the fifth album the circle is ended. Hlidskjolf is obviously a different thing, so it differ from Burzum of that obvious reason. I see no reason to babble about it here, all who have any interest will be able to find out what it is when the first release is out anyway. It is music all right, that's all you need to know.
On one side Burzum is stronger than ever, but on the other side a sort of "anti Burzum movement" is increasing and the first threats have already been done. Aren't you afraid that this movement will grow too powerful for you and that even some of Burzum's representative people will probably be in danger?
Weak men threaten, real men act. This "movement" you are talking about is a bunch of homosexual losers who fell in love with Euronymous and hate me for killing their great love. I do not even think about them. I have more powerful foes than these weaklings. Fear is failure and hate is fear (hate is fear? -ed.). so that leave those who hate me as failures. Think about it.
If anybody want to kill any of the Burzum representatives let them try. I am sure that even the women at Misanthropy Records are more men than the weaklings who hate me for killing the pathetic Euronymous.
You call yourself an Odinist, but in old interviews (like the one in Finnish "Hammer Of Damnation" #3) you didn't talk about Viking cults and stuff like that, only about the usual hate, winter, no fun-themes... more vampyric! What differs Count Grishnackh 1991 from the Count of 1995?
In 1991 a.y.p.s. we (who? -ed.) said a lot just to make people hate us, everybody hated what we said, so that's why we said it. We were fed up with all the scene and all the people in the scene, so we wanted to get away from it. Of course a lot of people view it as a sudden change or something like that, but actually we heard the same questions back then. In 1991 everybody asked me why I did not talk about all the Viking stuff and heathen cults I used to talk about (really? -ed.) before I suddenly started to talk about total hate/death/winter etc. So the Graf Grishnackh of 1990 was exactly like the Graf (a younger version of course) of 1993 and from thence, but in late 1991 and until late 1992 I was fed up with everything and I wanted to get away from it all. The depression only lasted for a while.
If you like it or not... Burzum got "big" with the "new wave of Black Metal" (as I call it) that was mainly caused by none other than Mayhem/Deathlike Silence, but you deny being Black Metal and within that scene. Do you really think that Burzum would exist the way it is if Mayhem weren't around?
Listen to me you big idiot. Deathlike Silence Productions was totally bankrupt and the one and only reason it economically survived was because Burzum signed to it, lent about 40.000 NOK (about 10.000 DM) to them to make the release possible (but DSP was the only label at that time dedicated to bands with an ancient "Black/Death Metal sound", no other label was interested in such music back then -ed.). If I had not signed to DSP they would not exist out of the year 1992. Also there were no fuckin' wave of Black Metal when Burzum and Darkthrone started, it was us who caused the wave to appear (after Euronymous gave you all the right definition of what real Death/Black Metal is all about -ed.), together with Samael from Switzerland and Immortal. So do not fucking tell me I got "big" on the Black Metal wave. I signed to DSP to help them, if I had not done that Burzum would be "big" a whole year earlier as I would have signed to a competent label instead of the bankrupt DSP who had the use the Burzum income to pay their fucking house rent, leaving nothing back. What truly made this fuckin' Black Metal wave to appear as also my slaughtering of Euronymous and the church burnings (which was a stupid thing to do in some cases -ed.) which Mayhem had absolutely nothing to do with (well, apart from being stabbed to death, apart from being the fucking looser victim). Also Mayhem released their first album in 1994 ("Deathcrush" is a big joke, it's fun metal with fun lyrics, I know as he read them, so that this piece has nothing to do with the Black Metal wave. The track they excluded from the release is a fun track which we could hear on children TV when we were young. No wonder they dropped it). At that time I had already three albums out and sold thousands of albums before they even had a cover for their debut (which has already been released as a limited 7'inch around 1987 and was one of the top collector's items since quite a long time - ed.), so how the hell can you give Mayhem the credit for creating this Black Metal wave? Get serious and piss on that idiotic delusion you seem to be suffering from. (Euronymous converted a lot of musicians from usual Death Metal to Black Metal, still think about the dedications Darkthrone gave him on their "A Blaze In The Northern Sky" LP, also people who are into the Norwegian scene for long time can confirm this... also it's a fact that Mayhem were never trendy, they didn't need to change their style and still played a lot of old songs at live gigs - ed.)
If you are so into Nordic culture as you say, why haven't you settled your differences with Euronymous honourably? In olden times rivals would settle their differences in Holmgänga, a duel to the death on a deserted island, considered a legal and magical form of arbitration up to the XXth century. Wouldn't this have been the way to do this instead of stabbing someone on his doorstep in the middle of the night? Your chosen spot need not have been Holmgänga, but anywhere private would have been done...
Why I did not settle the difference between me and Euronymous honourably? Listen to me you clown. Euronymous intended to kill me while I was unconscious. He knew very well he would stand no chance if we met to fight to death. I have trained martial arts for ten years, five of them in club. I am a whole head taller than Euronymous was. I have grown up in an environment where fist fights were a weekly happening for me, where my friends shot each other because of drug money and so on. Euronymous had hardly ever been in fist fights at all and when he was he always got beaten badly with one exception when he used a broken wine bottle to cut too totally drunk going teenagers with. When I killed Euronymous I had to walk past two doors witch he unlocked with remote control and then walk eight stairs, four flours up before I got to his apartment, so do not tell me I did anything dishonourable (This has nothing to do with honour -ed.). He had an electroshock-pistol and a shotgun in his apartment and for that I could know there could just as well be three or four guys with him up there, so think before you speak. (I'm quite sure that you knew that he was alone -ed.). Besides it's not Holmgänga, it's called Holmganga (in modern Norwegian Holmgang). It's impossible to go Holmganga with such cowards as Euronymous, he would either bring his shotgun or electro-pistol or he would not show up at all (perhaps you are now excusing your own cowardice with Euronymous' cowardice?! -ed.).
It was often said that your friendship with Euronymous ended because of the different political attitudes as you are a fascist and he was more attracted by communistic thoughts... Is this true and was it finally the main reason for your feud?
The reason for our feud is simply because he envied me for getting so much support. People started to follow me as the leader instead of following him, so either he could loose all his influence or he could kill me, I killed him before he got that far. Survival to the fittest, have you forgotten that you "evil satanists" out there? Well, I survived, he did not. As simple as that!
Euronymous was a member of the communistic party and wore DDR flag on his jacket and so on. I was a skinhead when I was younger who smashed all the reds in the area and such believes do not wither over night, so obviously our "friendship" had to end sooner or later. It was business relationship, nothing else. He never was a friend of mine, only in theory to make the Burzum/DSP deal possible. At that time I did not know that he was a communist.
Don't you think that Euronymous will sooner or later be again "king" as he used to be within people's mind? The signs for that are given...
He will always be the king-loser! (king what? -ed.)
I heard that you don't answer questions that relate to the musical aspect of Burzum anymore, but don't you think that Burzum is famous because of your great compositions? Do you really expect people to read your lyrics?
People are perfectly capable of making up their own opinion on the music of Burzum. Besides I doubt anybody cares what I think of Burzum anyway, why should they? (Because it's your band and a piece of your personality! -ed.) Let them think for themselves. Burzum is famous because I did something, but they got to know about Burzum because I did something unusual, a lot of them though. What I did made Burzum known, but nothing else, it is the music who make Burzum famous. Burzum would not be famous if the music was shit, no matter what I had done, it's the music that counts. Not all who know of Burzum like it, not all who like Burzum like me, not all who like me like Burzum and not all who support me have even heard of Burzum. In Norway I am famous, not Burzum.
No. I do not expect people to read my lyrics, they are written in Norwegian, so only Norsemen know the language anyway. The German translations are meant to show the Germans that I feel closer to them than to the English or French speaking peoples. I would fight and die for Deutschland (includes all of that some consider as Großdeutschland), but I would not even consider fighting for any of the other European countries (I do not consider Norden/Scandinavia as a part of Europe, the British isles either for that sake).
Well, I don't care about nationalistic thinking and I would never die for any country as a volunteer, why should I? This is false pride!
Beside Burzum you are also working for Darkthrone, so what does that band (...) mean to you? Musically you can't compare Burzum with that band, but how's it with the lyrics? As a non-Norwegian I can't understand it...
I contributed with some lyrics, that's all. I am not and have never been even a session member of Darkthrone. Fenriz asked me if I wanted to do some lyrics for their next album and I said yes. As I see it, it was a way of showing support to each other in a difficult period. He let me write some lyrics for them, and I wrote some lyrics for them, an exchange of gifts. Darkthrone means together with Burzum the beginning of this heathen wave. (I thought that Darkthrone are a Black Metal band !?? - ed.).
Fenriz and Demonaz are your only true "brothers" as you call them, so what does unite you, what's so special about your brotherhood?
There's nothing special about our brotherhood, we are the spirit-brethren in Norway who built this scene together, as simple as that.
Talking about Demonaz: You once played with him and Abbath in a band namely Satanel, but why didn't it grow to something serious? Do any recordings exist of that time and what differs Satanel from both Immortal and Burzum?
Satanel grew to something serious: To Immortal and Burzum! We decided to work separately because we did not share the same ideas of how the music should sound and we were broke. Some of the tracks on the debut album of Immortal are original Satanel tracks, some of the Burzum tracks are Satanel tracks and a lot of the riffs in some of the other songs of each band are Satanel riffs, so there exists some recordings of the tracks, but the only thing existing as a Satanel recording is a rehearsal tape which the police took from me under the search of my apartment (they even took my underwear, Burzum master tapes and the original artwork for "Was einst war").
Satanel was more intense than any of the two bands, our main goal was to make as intense and aggressive music as we possibly managed. Every rehearsal was a madhouse!
A simple question: What does metal or better said music mean to you?
Metal means nothing to me (anymore? -ed.), music is an addiction. The only one I could suffer from. Music is the only therapy I need to stay same in this sick world. Die Welt ist krank, Musik ist Medizin.
Ein wahrer Satz! Will you continue with Burzum in future and where/when will you record something?
I doubt it, but will never say never. Music enough to record two albums was forgotten while I was on isolation cell for four months and the tapes I had recorded the riffs on were "lost" by the police, now I only remember five of those tracks. I am tired of working so hard just to see other ruin that I build or make and not least rip off what I do. It is time for me to move another step ahead of the others, so I do.
Your sentence is 21 years, but do you really expect it to be that long? I always thought that justice is for those who can afford it... and money wouldn't be a problem for you (I guess)!
Justice is not for heathens, I thought everybody understood that. The inquisition is not over, it never will be, as long as the Christians are in power. So money would not a problem for me? Well, your guess is a bad guess. I hardly had enough money to buy food when I was out there, one of the changes from freedom to my current situation is that I don't need to worry about that anymore. One of the reasons why Satanel split up was this poverty, we could not afford to travel to the rehearsal place, with Burzum/Uruk-Hai I could rehearse in my one-room apartment (which did not even have a toilet!). I was not just a heathen, I was a poor heathen when I entered the courtroom for a "fair" trial (Rumours say that you had a good lawyer! -ed.). The state paid for the best lawyer there is in Norway, well, he took the case hired by the state (as criminals have a right to). Yes, I expected 21 years, those who believe in justice are ignorant fools.
Is there anything left to say at the end of this interview?
Most likely not, violence would probably say a lot more anyway. Think before you send me any questions, if there ever comes a next time (No! -ed.)! If you fail manage to think, you can just drop it.
My mental state? In one word: relaxed! Prison is no big deal, it is a temporary state of isolation, no need to change my mental state just because you get thrown into prison for some time. I do, more or less, the same as I did outside, only minor differences.
Business is going fine for Burzum "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" sells like hell, so what are you going to do with the money you earn out of the sales? Is the financial advantage also existing in prison?
No financial advantage in prison, we only get what we get from the prison which is 25 NOK (about 5-6 DM), no private money allowed. I see no reason to initiate you or anyone else into my private economy. I see to it that money is spent wisely for matters I burn for.
The latest news we heard (from the Misanthropy Newsletter) is your side project Lidskjalw, totally not-metal as it was said, so please can you give some info about it? Why do you differ Lidskjalw from Burzum?
Well, first of all Lidskjalw is written Hlidskjolf. It differs from Burzum simply because the burzumnic sun wheel has been fully covered. The number of Burzum is five, with the fifth album the circle is ended. Hlidskjolf is obviously a different thing, so it differ from Burzum of that obvious reason. I see no reason to babble about it here, all who have any interest will be able to find out what it is when the first release is out anyway. It is music all right, that's all you need to know.
On one side Burzum is stronger than ever, but on the other side a sort of "anti Burzum movement" is increasing and the first threats have already been done. Aren't you afraid that this movement will grow too powerful for you and that even some of Burzum's representative people will probably be in danger?
Weak men threaten, real men act. This "movement" you are talking about is a bunch of homosexual losers who fell in love with Euronymous and hate me for killing their great love. I do not even think about them. I have more powerful foes than these weaklings. Fear is failure and hate is fear (hate is fear? -ed.). so that leave those who hate me as failures. Think about it.
If anybody want to kill any of the Burzum representatives let them try. I am sure that even the women at Misanthropy Records are more men than the weaklings who hate me for killing the pathetic Euronymous.
You call yourself an Odinist, but in old interviews (like the one in Finnish "Hammer Of Damnation" #3) you didn't talk about Viking cults and stuff like that, only about the usual hate, winter, no fun-themes... more vampyric! What differs Count Grishnackh 1991 from the Count of 1995?
In 1991 a.y.p.s. we (who? -ed.) said a lot just to make people hate us, everybody hated what we said, so that's why we said it. We were fed up with all the scene and all the people in the scene, so we wanted to get away from it. Of course a lot of people view it as a sudden change or something like that, but actually we heard the same questions back then. In 1991 everybody asked me why I did not talk about all the Viking stuff and heathen cults I used to talk about (really? -ed.) before I suddenly started to talk about total hate/death/winter etc. So the Graf Grishnackh of 1990 was exactly like the Graf (a younger version of course) of 1993 and from thence, but in late 1991 and until late 1992 I was fed up with everything and I wanted to get away from it all. The depression only lasted for a while.
If you like it or not... Burzum got "big" with the "new wave of Black Metal" (as I call it) that was mainly caused by none other than Mayhem/Deathlike Silence, but you deny being Black Metal and within that scene. Do you really think that Burzum would exist the way it is if Mayhem weren't around?
Listen to me you big idiot. Deathlike Silence Productions was totally bankrupt and the one and only reason it economically survived was because Burzum signed to it, lent about 40.000 NOK (about 10.000 DM) to them to make the release possible (but DSP was the only label at that time dedicated to bands with an ancient "Black/Death Metal sound", no other label was interested in such music back then -ed.). If I had not signed to DSP they would not exist out of the year 1992. Also there were no fuckin' wave of Black Metal when Burzum and Darkthrone started, it was us who caused the wave to appear (after Euronymous gave you all the right definition of what real Death/Black Metal is all about -ed.), together with Samael from Switzerland and Immortal. So do not fucking tell me I got "big" on the Black Metal wave. I signed to DSP to help them, if I had not done that Burzum would be "big" a whole year earlier as I would have signed to a competent label instead of the bankrupt DSP who had the use the Burzum income to pay their fucking house rent, leaving nothing back. What truly made this fuckin' Black Metal wave to appear as also my slaughtering of Euronymous and the church burnings (which was a stupid thing to do in some cases -ed.) which Mayhem had absolutely nothing to do with (well, apart from being stabbed to death, apart from being the fucking looser victim). Also Mayhem released their first album in 1994 ("Deathcrush" is a big joke, it's fun metal with fun lyrics, I know as he read them, so that this piece has nothing to do with the Black Metal wave. The track they excluded from the release is a fun track which we could hear on children TV when we were young. No wonder they dropped it). At that time I had already three albums out and sold thousands of albums before they even had a cover for their debut (which has already been released as a limited 7'inch around 1987 and was one of the top collector's items since quite a long time - ed.), so how the hell can you give Mayhem the credit for creating this Black Metal wave? Get serious and piss on that idiotic delusion you seem to be suffering from. (Euronymous converted a lot of musicians from usual Death Metal to Black Metal, still think about the dedications Darkthrone gave him on their "A Blaze In The Northern Sky" LP, also people who are into the Norwegian scene for long time can confirm this... also it's a fact that Mayhem were never trendy, they didn't need to change their style and still played a lot of old songs at live gigs - ed.)
If you are so into Nordic culture as you say, why haven't you settled your differences with Euronymous honourably? In olden times rivals would settle their differences in Holmgänga, a duel to the death on a deserted island, considered a legal and magical form of arbitration up to the XXth century. Wouldn't this have been the way to do this instead of stabbing someone on his doorstep in the middle of the night? Your chosen spot need not have been Holmgänga, but anywhere private would have been done...
Why I did not settle the difference between me and Euronymous honourably? Listen to me you clown. Euronymous intended to kill me while I was unconscious. He knew very well he would stand no chance if we met to fight to death. I have trained martial arts for ten years, five of them in club. I am a whole head taller than Euronymous was. I have grown up in an environment where fist fights were a weekly happening for me, where my friends shot each other because of drug money and so on. Euronymous had hardly ever been in fist fights at all and when he was he always got beaten badly with one exception when he used a broken wine bottle to cut too totally drunk going teenagers with. When I killed Euronymous I had to walk past two doors witch he unlocked with remote control and then walk eight stairs, four flours up before I got to his apartment, so do not tell me I did anything dishonourable (This has nothing to do with honour -ed.). He had an electroshock-pistol and a shotgun in his apartment and for that I could know there could just as well be three or four guys with him up there, so think before you speak. (I'm quite sure that you knew that he was alone -ed.). Besides it's not Holmgänga, it's called Holmganga (in modern Norwegian Holmgang). It's impossible to go Holmganga with such cowards as Euronymous, he would either bring his shotgun or electro-pistol or he would not show up at all (perhaps you are now excusing your own cowardice with Euronymous' cowardice?! -ed.).
It was often said that your friendship with Euronymous ended because of the different political attitudes as you are a fascist and he was more attracted by communistic thoughts... Is this true and was it finally the main reason for your feud?
The reason for our feud is simply because he envied me for getting so much support. People started to follow me as the leader instead of following him, so either he could loose all his influence or he could kill me, I killed him before he got that far. Survival to the fittest, have you forgotten that you "evil satanists" out there? Well, I survived, he did not. As simple as that!
Euronymous was a member of the communistic party and wore DDR flag on his jacket and so on. I was a skinhead when I was younger who smashed all the reds in the area and such believes do not wither over night, so obviously our "friendship" had to end sooner or later. It was business relationship, nothing else. He never was a friend of mine, only in theory to make the Burzum/DSP deal possible. At that time I did not know that he was a communist.
Don't you think that Euronymous will sooner or later be again "king" as he used to be within people's mind? The signs for that are given...
He will always be the king-loser! (king what? -ed.)
I heard that you don't answer questions that relate to the musical aspect of Burzum anymore, but don't you think that Burzum is famous because of your great compositions? Do you really expect people to read your lyrics?
People are perfectly capable of making up their own opinion on the music of Burzum. Besides I doubt anybody cares what I think of Burzum anyway, why should they? (Because it's your band and a piece of your personality! -ed.) Let them think for themselves. Burzum is famous because I did something, but they got to know about Burzum because I did something unusual, a lot of them though. What I did made Burzum known, but nothing else, it is the music who make Burzum famous. Burzum would not be famous if the music was shit, no matter what I had done, it's the music that counts. Not all who know of Burzum like it, not all who like Burzum like me, not all who like me like Burzum and not all who support me have even heard of Burzum. In Norway I am famous, not Burzum.
No. I do not expect people to read my lyrics, they are written in Norwegian, so only Norsemen know the language anyway. The German translations are meant to show the Germans that I feel closer to them than to the English or French speaking peoples. I would fight and die for Deutschland (includes all of that some consider as Großdeutschland), but I would not even consider fighting for any of the other European countries (I do not consider Norden/Scandinavia as a part of Europe, the British isles either for that sake).
Well, I don't care about nationalistic thinking and I would never die for any country as a volunteer, why should I? This is false pride!
Beside Burzum you are also working for Darkthrone, so what does that band (...) mean to you? Musically you can't compare Burzum with that band, but how's it with the lyrics? As a non-Norwegian I can't understand it...
I contributed with some lyrics, that's all. I am not and have never been even a session member of Darkthrone. Fenriz asked me if I wanted to do some lyrics for their next album and I said yes. As I see it, it was a way of showing support to each other in a difficult period. He let me write some lyrics for them, and I wrote some lyrics for them, an exchange of gifts. Darkthrone means together with Burzum the beginning of this heathen wave. (I thought that Darkthrone are a Black Metal band !?? - ed.).
Fenriz and Demonaz are your only true "brothers" as you call them, so what does unite you, what's so special about your brotherhood?
There's nothing special about our brotherhood, we are the spirit-brethren in Norway who built this scene together, as simple as that.
Talking about Demonaz: You once played with him and Abbath in a band namely Satanel, but why didn't it grow to something serious? Do any recordings exist of that time and what differs Satanel from both Immortal and Burzum?
Satanel grew to something serious: To Immortal and Burzum! We decided to work separately because we did not share the same ideas of how the music should sound and we were broke. Some of the tracks on the debut album of Immortal are original Satanel tracks, some of the Burzum tracks are Satanel tracks and a lot of the riffs in some of the other songs of each band are Satanel riffs, so there exists some recordings of the tracks, but the only thing existing as a Satanel recording is a rehearsal tape which the police took from me under the search of my apartment (they even took my underwear, Burzum master tapes and the original artwork for "Was einst war").
Satanel was more intense than any of the two bands, our main goal was to make as intense and aggressive music as we possibly managed. Every rehearsal was a madhouse!
A simple question: What does metal or better said music mean to you?
Metal means nothing to me (anymore? -ed.), music is an addiction. The only one I could suffer from. Music is the only therapy I need to stay same in this sick world. Die Welt ist krank, Musik ist Medizin.
Ein wahrer Satz! Will you continue with Burzum in future and where/when will you record something?
I doubt it, but will never say never. Music enough to record two albums was forgotten while I was on isolation cell for four months and the tapes I had recorded the riffs on were "lost" by the police, now I only remember five of those tracks. I am tired of working so hard just to see other ruin that I build or make and not least rip off what I do. It is time for me to move another step ahead of the others, so I do.
Your sentence is 21 years, but do you really expect it to be that long? I always thought that justice is for those who can afford it... and money wouldn't be a problem for you (I guess)!
Justice is not for heathens, I thought everybody understood that. The inquisition is not over, it never will be, as long as the Christians are in power. So money would not a problem for me? Well, your guess is a bad guess. I hardly had enough money to buy food when I was out there, one of the changes from freedom to my current situation is that I don't need to worry about that anymore. One of the reasons why Satanel split up was this poverty, we could not afford to travel to the rehearsal place, with Burzum/Uruk-Hai I could rehearse in my one-room apartment (which did not even have a toilet!). I was not just a heathen, I was a poor heathen when I entered the courtroom for a "fair" trial (Rumours say that you had a good lawyer! -ed.). The state paid for the best lawyer there is in Norway, well, he took the case hired by the state (as criminals have a right to). Yes, I expected 21 years, those who believe in justice are ignorant fools.
Is there anything left to say at the end of this interview?
Most likely not, violence would probably say a lot more anyway. Think before you send me any questions, if there ever comes a next time (No! -ed.)! If you fail manage to think, you can just drop it.
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Decide for yourself what you should think about Grishnackh's statements, never trust in nobody but yourself generally! Burzum's music is still first class and I still think that especially "Det Som Engang Var" is one of the strongest albums made in Black Metal history, but Grishnackh as a person is a different chapter, especially when it comes to his attitudes! "Filosofem", the fourth and last full-length album, is soon to strike, but it will be different relating to Misanthropy Records. As usual: Time will tell!
Author: Costa Stoios (© 1994 "Tales of the Macabre" magazine, Germany)
